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Both 遍 (biàn) and 次 (cì) are commonly used measure words that tell how many times an action is done. Both are used in formal and informal settings. The difference is that 遍 (biàn) means doing an action all the way from the beginning to the end, whereas 次 (cì) refers to the total number of times an action occurs.
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Both 遍 (biàn) and 次 (cì) are commonly used measure words that tell how many times an action is done. Both are used in formal and informal contexts. The difference is that 遍 (biàn) means doing an action all the way from the beginning to the end, whereas 次 (cì) refers to the total number of times an action occurs, regardless of full completion.
  
 
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== To show the total number of times an action occurs use 次 (cì)  ==
 
== To show the total number of times an action occurs use 次 (cì)  ==
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When you want to show the total number of times an action occurs, use 次 (cì). In this case you're not emphasizing full completion. In some cases (such as going somewhere), there's no "partial completion" anyway, so just use 次 (cì).
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次 is definitely more common, and the one you probably learned first.
  
 
=== Common Phrases ===
 
=== Common Phrases ===
 
When you want to show the total number of times an action occurs use 次 (cì). In this case you're not emphasizing full completion. In some cases (such as going somewhere), there's no "partial completion" anyway, so just use 次 (cì).
 
  
 
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== To reference a specific time or the specific instance an action occurs use 次 (cì) ==
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== To reference a specific time or instance, use 次 (cì) ==
  
To show this time, next time, every time, the first time, etc. use 次 (cì).  
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To indicate "this time," "next time," "every time," "the first time," etc. use 次 (cì).  
  
 
=== Common Phrases ===
 
=== Common Phrases ===
  
 
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* 这 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">zhè <em> cì </em></span><span class="trans">this time</span>
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* 这 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">zhè <em>cì</em></span><span class="trans">this time</span>
* 下 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">xià <em> cì </em></span><span class="trans">next time</span>
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* 下 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">xià <em>cì</em></span><span class="trans">next time</span>
* 每 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">měi <em> cì </em></span><span class="trans">every time</span>
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* 每 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">měi <em>cì</em></span><span class="trans">every time</span>
* 第一 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">dì-yī <em> cì </em></span><span class="trans">the first time</span>
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* 第一 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">dì-yī <em>cì</em></span><span class="trans">the first time</span>
  
 
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== When an action is done from beginning to end use 遍 (biàn) ==
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== When an action is done from beginning to end, use 遍 (biàn) ==
  
 
This is pretty straightforward. When you do something all the way from the beginning to the end use 遍 (biàn). This is common when talking about things like a sentence someone said, a story, or a song.
 
This is pretty straightforward. When you do something all the way from the beginning to the end use 遍 (biàn). This is common when talking about things like a sentence someone said, a story, or a song.
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* 再 说 一 <em>遍</em> <span class="pinyin">zài shuō yī <em> biàn </em></span><span class="trans">say again from beginning to end</span>
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* 再 说 一 <em>遍</em> <span class="pinyin">zài shuō yī <em> biàn </em></span><span class="trans">say it again (from beginning to end)</span>
* 再 听 一 <em>遍</em> <span class="pinyin">zài tīng yī <em> biàn </em></span><span class="trans">listen again from beginning to end</span>
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* 再 听 一 <em>遍</em> <span class="pinyin">zài tīng yī <em> biàn </em></span><span class="trans">listen again (from beginning to end)</span>
* 再 读 一 <em>遍</em> <span class="pinyin">zài dú yī <em> biàn </em></span><span class="trans">read again from beginning to end</span>
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* 再 读 一 <em>遍</em> <span class="pinyin">zài dú yī <em> biàn </em></span><span class="trans">read it again (from beginning to end)</span>
  
 
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=== Example Sentences ===
 
=== Example Sentences ===
  
Again, only 遍 (biàn) is used for actions from beginning to end.
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Again, use 遍 (biàn) only for actions done from beginning to end.
  
 
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Revision as of 07:30, 18 April 2022

Both 遍 (biàn) and 次 (cì) are commonly used measure words that tell how many times an action is done. Both are used in formal and informal contexts. The difference is that 遍 (biàn) means doing an action all the way from the beginning to the end, whereas 次 (cì) refers to the total number of times an action occurs, regardless of full completion.











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遍 (biàn) 次 (cì)
Meaning times an action has been completed from beginning to end number of times an action occurs
Part of Speech measure word measure word
Formality flexible flexible

To show the total number of times an action occurs use 次 (cì)

When you want to show the total number of times an action occurs, use 次 (cì). In this case you're not emphasizing full completion. In some cases (such as going somewhere), there's no "partial completion" anyway, so just use 次 (cì).

次 is definitely more common, and the one you probably learned first.

Common Phrases

  • 看 过 一 kàn guò yī watched one time
  • 听 过 三 tīng guò sān listened three times
  • 去 过 几 qù guò jǐ went several times

Example Sentences

  • 我 去 过 两 上海。
  • 我 看过 三 这个 电影,但 每 次 都 没 看 完。
  • 我 很 喜欢 红烧肉,我 已经 吃 过 很多 了。
  • 他 一 个 星期 去 两 健身房 。
  • 我 玩 过 几 这个 游戏,这个 游戏 还 不错。
  • 去年 我 参加 了 三 马拉松,但是 每 次 都 没有 跑完 全程。
  • 这 座 山 很 难 爬,他们 爬 了 五 都 没有 爬 上去。

To reference a specific time or instance, use 次 (cì)

To indicate "this time," "next time," "every time," "the first time," etc. use 次 (cì).

Common Phrases

  • zhè this time
  • xià next time
  • měi every time
  • 第一 dì-yī the first time

Example Sentences

  • 今天 没有 时间 , 我们 下 次 学习 。
  • 这 次 的 旅游 很 好玩。
  • 每 次 上课 以前 都 会 准备 。
  • 上 次 我 是 坐 飞机 回 美国 的。
  • 如果 你 下 次 再 迟到,老板 要 生气 了。
  • 我们 每 次 的 活动 都 很 有意思。
  • 这 是 我 第一 次 来 中国。
  • 第一 次 学 中文 是 2014 年。

When an action is done from beginning to end, use 遍 (biàn)

This is pretty straightforward. When you do something all the way from the beginning to the end use 遍 (biàn). This is common when talking about things like a sentence someone said, a story, or a song.

Common Phrases

  • 再 说 一 zài shuō yī biàn say it again (from beginning to end)
  • 再 听 一 zài tīng yī biàn listen again (from beginning to end)
  • 再 读 一 zài dú yī biàn read it again (from beginning to end)

Example Sentences

Again, use 遍 (biàn) only for actions done from beginning to end.

  • 你 可以 再 说 一 吗?
  • 我 看 过 两 这个 电影。
  • 我 很 喜欢 这 本 书,我 看 了 五
  • 这个 歌 我 每天 都 听 一
  • 请 写 十 这个 汉字。
  • 我 和 你 说 了 两 ,你 不 可能 不 知道。
  • 这个 电影 很 好看 , 我 想 再 看 一
  • 我 已经 听 了 三、四 , 还是 听 不 懂。
  • 我 跟 你 说 过 很多 了 , 你 为什么 不 听 呢 ?


Sources and further reading

Websites

[汉语教学随笔]“次”、“遍”、“趟”和“下” https://www.douban.com/note/516661979/?type=like&_i=0263109_Wdagos

“遍”和“次” http://www.hwjyw.com/resource/content/2010/04/26/5951.shtml