Difference between revisions of "Comparing "bian" and "ci""
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− | Both 遍 (biàn) and 次 (cì) are commonly used measure words that tell how many times an action is done. Both are used in formal and informal | + | Both 遍 (biàn) and 次 (cì) are commonly used measure words that tell how many times an action is done. Both are used in formal and informal contexts. The difference is that 遍 (biàn) means doing an action all the way from the beginning to the end, whereas 次 (cì) refers to the total number of times an action occurs, regardless of full completion. |
{{SimilarWordsCol1|遍|biàn|doing an action from beginning to end|measure word|flexible}} | {{SimilarWordsCol1|遍|biàn|doing an action from beginning to end|measure word|flexible}} | ||
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== To show the total number of times an action occurs use 次 (cì) == | == To show the total number of times an action occurs use 次 (cì) == | ||
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+ | When you want to show the total number of times an action occurs, use 次 (cì). In this case you're not emphasizing full completion. In some cases (such as going somewhere), there's no "partial completion" anyway, so just use 次 (cì). | ||
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+ | 次 is definitely more common, and the one you probably learned first. | ||
=== Common Phrases === | === Common Phrases === | ||
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− | == To reference a specific time or | + | == To reference a specific time or instance, use 次 (cì) == |
− | To | + | To indicate "this time," "next time," "every time," "the first time," etc. use 次 (cì). |
=== Common Phrases === | === Common Phrases === | ||
<div class="liju dapei"> | <div class="liju dapei"> | ||
− | * 这 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">zhè <em> cì </em></span><span class="trans">this time</span> | + | * 这 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">zhè <em>cì</em></span><span class="trans">this time</span> |
− | * 下 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">xià <em> cì </em></span><span class="trans">next time</span> | + | * 下 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">xià <em>cì</em></span><span class="trans">next time</span> |
− | * 每 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">měi <em> cì </em></span><span class="trans">every time</span> | + | * 每 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">měi <em>cì</em></span><span class="trans">every time</span> |
− | * 第一 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">dì-yī <em> cì </em></span><span class="trans">the first time</span> | + | * 第一 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">dì-yī <em>cì</em></span><span class="trans">the first time</span> |
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− | == When an action is done from beginning to end use 遍 (biàn) == | + | == When an action is done from beginning to end, use 遍 (biàn) == |
This is pretty straightforward. When you do something all the way from the beginning to the end use 遍 (biàn). This is common when talking about things like a sentence someone said, a story, or a song. | This is pretty straightforward. When you do something all the way from the beginning to the end use 遍 (biàn). This is common when talking about things like a sentence someone said, a story, or a song. | ||
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− | * 再 说 一 <em>遍</em> <span class="pinyin">zài shuō yī <em> biàn </em></span><span class="trans">say again from beginning to end</span> | + | * 再 说 一 <em>遍</em> <span class="pinyin">zài shuō yī <em> biàn </em></span><span class="trans">say it again (from beginning to end)</span> |
− | * 再 听 一 <em>遍</em> <span class="pinyin">zài tīng yī <em> biàn </em></span><span class="trans">listen again from beginning to end</span> | + | * 再 听 一 <em>遍</em> <span class="pinyin">zài tīng yī <em> biàn </em></span><span class="trans">listen again (from beginning to end)</span> |
− | * 再 读 一 <em>遍</em> <span class="pinyin">zài dú yī <em> biàn </em></span><span class="trans">read again from beginning to end</span> | + | * 再 读 一 <em>遍</em> <span class="pinyin">zài dú yī <em> biàn </em></span><span class="trans">read it again (from beginning to end)</span> |
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=== Example Sentences === | === Example Sentences === | ||
− | Again, | + | Again, use 遍 (biàn) only for actions done from beginning to end. |
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Revision as of 07:30, 18 April 2022
Both 遍 (biàn) and 次 (cì) are commonly used measure words that tell how many times an action is done. Both are used in formal and informal contexts. The difference is that 遍 (biàn) means doing an action all the way from the beginning to the end, whereas 次 (cì) refers to the total number of times an action occurs, regardless of full completion.
遍 (biàn) | 次 (cì) | |
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Meaning | times an action has been completed from beginning to end | number of times an action occurs |
Part of Speech | measure word | measure word |
Formality | flexible | flexible |
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To show the total number of times an action occurs use 次 (cì)
When you want to show the total number of times an action occurs, use 次 (cì). In this case you're not emphasizing full completion. In some cases (such as going somewhere), there's no "partial completion" anyway, so just use 次 (cì).
次 is definitely more common, and the one you probably learned first.
Common Phrases
- 看 过 一 次 watched one time
- 听 过 三 次 listened three times
- 去 过 几 次 went several times
Example Sentences
- 我 去 过 两 次 上海。
- 我 看过 三 次 这个 电影,但 每 次 都 没 看 完。
- 我 很 喜欢 红烧肉,我 已经 吃 过 很多 次 了。
- 他 一 个 星期 去 两 次 健身房 。
- 我 玩 过 几 次 这个 游戏,这个 游戏 还 不错。
- 去年 我 参加 了 三 次 马拉松,但是 每 次 都 没有 跑完 全程。
- 这 座 山 很 难 爬,他们 爬 了 五 次 都 没有 爬 上去。
To reference a specific time or instance, use 次 (cì)
To indicate "this time," "next time," "every time," "the first time," etc. use 次 (cì).
Common Phrases
- 这 次 this time
- 下 次 next time
- 每 次 every time
- 第一 次 the first time
Example Sentences
- 今天 没有 时间 , 我们 下 次 学习 。
- 这 次 的 旅游 很 好玩。
- 我 每 次 上课 以前 都 会 准备 。
- 上 次 我 是 坐 飞机 回 美国 的。
- 如果 你 下 次 再 迟到,老板 要 生气 了。
- 我们 每 次 的 活动 都 很 有意思。
- 这 是 我 第一 次 来 中国。
- 我 第一 次 学 中文 是 2014 年。
When an action is done from beginning to end, use 遍 (biàn)
This is pretty straightforward. When you do something all the way from the beginning to the end use 遍 (biàn). This is common when talking about things like a sentence someone said, a story, or a song.
Common Phrases
- 再 说 一 遍 say it again (from beginning to end)
- 再 听 一 遍 listen again (from beginning to end)
- 再 读 一 遍 read it again (from beginning to end)
Example Sentences
Again, use 遍 (biàn) only for actions done from beginning to end.
- 你 可以 再 说 一 遍 吗?
- 我 看 过 两 遍 这个 电影。
- 我 很 喜欢 这 本 书,我 看 了 五 遍。
- 这个 歌 我 每天 都 听 一 遍。
- 请 写 十 遍 这个 汉字。
- 我 和 你 说 了 两 遍,你 不 可能 不 知道。
- 这个 电影 很 好看 , 我 想 再 看 一 遍。
- 我 已经 听 了 三、四 遍, 还是 听 不 懂。
- 我 跟 你 说 过 很多 遍 了 , 你 为什么 不 听 呢 ?
Sources and further reading
Websites
[汉语教学随笔]“次”、“遍”、“趟”和“下” https://www.douban.com/note/516661979/?type=like&_i=0263109_Wdagos
“遍”和“次” http://www.hwjyw.com/resource/content/2010/04/26/5951.shtml