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Both 遍 (biàn) and 次 (cì) are commonly used measure words that mean how many “times” an action is done. Both are used in formal and informal settings. The difference between these two measure words is 遍 (biàn) means doing an action  all the way from the beginning to the end, whereas 次 (cì) means the total number of times an action occurs.
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== To show that an action is done from beginning to end use 遍 (biàn) ==
 
 
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<th style="width:33%">遍 (biàn)</th>
 
<th style="width:33%">次 (cì)</th>
 
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<th>Meaning</th><td>doing an action from beginning to end</td><td class="liju">number of times an action occurs</td>
 
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<th>Part of Speech</th><td>measure word</td><td class="liju"> measure word</td>
 
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<th>Formality</th><td>flexible</td><td class="liju">flexible</td>
 
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== Similarities ==
 
  
 
=== Common Phrases ===
 
=== Common Phrases ===
  
These phrases work with '''both''' 遍 and 次, although the meaning is slightly different.
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This is pretty straightforward, when you do something all the way from the beginning to the end only 遍 (biàn) can be used.
  
 
<div class="liju dapei">
 
<div class="liju dapei">
* 看 过 很多 <em>遍</em> <span class="pinyin">kàn guò hěn duō <em> biàn </em></span><span class="trans">watched many times from beginning to end</span>
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* 再 说 一 <em>遍</em> <span class="pinyin">zài shuō yī <em> biàn </em></span><span class="trans">say again from beginning to end</span>
* 看 过 很多 <em></em> <span class="pinyin">kàn guò hěn duō <em> </em></span><span class="trans">watched many times</span>
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* 再 听 一 <em></em> <span class="pinyin">zài tīng yī <em> biàn </em></span><span class="trans">listen again from beginning to end</span>
 
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=== Example Sentences ===
 
=== Example Sentences ===
  
In the following sentences, '''both''' and 次 can be used interchangeably:
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Only (biàn) can used to mean do an action from beginning to end.
  
 
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* 我看过三遍这个电影。
 
* 我看过三遍这个电影。
* 我看过三次这个电影。
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* 你可以再说一遍吗?
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* 我很喜欢这本书,我看了五遍。
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* 这个歌我每天都听一遍。
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* 请写十遍这个汉字。
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* 我和你说了两遍,你不可能不知道。
 
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== Differences ==
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== To show the total number of times an action is done use 次 (cì)  ==
  
 
=== Common Phrases ===
 
=== Common Phrases ===
  
These phrases '''only''' work with 遍:
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This is also pretty clear, to show the total number of times an action is done only 次 (cì) can be used.
  
 
<div class="liju dapei">
 
<div class="liju dapei">
* 再 说 一 <em></em> <span class="pinyin">zài shuō yī <em> biàn </em></span><span class="trans">say again from beginning to end</span>
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* 看过一 <em></em> <span class="pinyin">kàn guò yī <em> </em></span><span class="trans">watched one time</span>
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听过三 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">ting guò sān <em> cì </em></span><span class="trans">listened three times</span>
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* 去一 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">qù yī <em> cì </em></span><span class="trans">go one time</span>
 
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</div>
  
 
<div class="liju dapei">
 
<div class="liju dapei">
* 再 听 一 <em></em> <span class="pinyin">zài tīng yī <em> biàn </em></span><span class="trans">listen again from beginning to end</span>
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* 去过多 <em></em> <span class="pinyin">qù guò <em> </em></span><span class="trans">went many times</span>
 
</div>
 
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=== Example Sentences ===
 
=== Example Sentences ===
  
In the following sentences, '''only''' 遍 can be used:
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To represent the the total number of times an action is done use 次 (cì).
  
 
<div class="liju">
 
<div class="liju">
  
* 你可以再说一遍吗?
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* 我看过三次这个电影。
* 我很喜欢这本书,我看了五遍。
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* 我去过两次上海。
* 这个歌我每天都听一遍。
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* 我想去一次云南。
* 请写十遍这个汉字。
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* 我很喜欢红烧肉,我已经吃过很多次了。
* 我和你说了两遍,你不可能不知道。
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* 他 一 个 星期 去 两 次 健身房 。
 
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== To reference a specific time or the specific instance an action is done only 次 (cì) can be used ==
  
 
=== Common Phrases ===
 
=== Common Phrases ===
  
These phrases work '''only''' with 次:下次、这次、每次、第一次
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To show this time, next time, every time, the first time, etc. use 次 (cì).
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* 这 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">zhè <em> cì </em></span><span class="trans">this time</span>
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<div class="liju dapei">
 
<div class="liju dapei">
* 去一 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">qù yī <em> cì </em></span><span class="trans">go one time</span>
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* <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">xià <em> cì </em></span><span class="trans">next time</span>
 
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</div>
  
 
<div class="liju dapei">
 
<div class="liju dapei">
* 去过多 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">qù guò <em> cì </em></span><span class="trans">went many times</span>
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* <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">Měi <em> cì </em></span><span class="trans">every time</span>
 
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* 第一 <em>次</em> <span class="pinyin">dì-yī <em> cì </em></span><span class="trans">the first time</span>
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=== Example Sentences ===
 
=== Example Sentences ===
  
In the following sentences, '''only''' 次 can be used:
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Use 次 (cì) to reference the specific time or instance an action is done.
  
 
<div class="liju">
 
<div class="liju">
  
* 我去过三次上海。
 
* 我玩过一次这个游戏。
 
* 我想再去一次云南。
 
* 我很喜欢红烧肉,我已经吃过很多次了。
 
* 他 一 个 星期 去 两 次 健身房 。
 
 
* 今天 没有 时间 , 我们 下 次 学习 。
 
* 今天 没有 时间 , 我们 下 次 学习 。
 
* 这次 的 旅游 很 好玩。
 
* 这次 的 旅游 很 好玩。
 
* 我 每次 上课 以前 都 会 准备 。
 
* 我 每次 上课 以前 都 会 准备 。
 
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Revision as of 01:42, 16 August 2021

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To show that an action is done from beginning to end use 遍 (biàn)

Common Phrases

This is pretty straightforward, when you do something all the way from the beginning to the end only 遍 (biàn) can be used.

  • 再 说 一 zài shuō yī biàn say again from beginning to end
  • 再 听 一 zài tīng yī biàn listen again from beginning to end

Example Sentences

Only 遍 (biàn) can used to mean do an action from beginning to end.

  • 我看过三遍这个电影。
  • 你可以再说一遍吗?
  • 我很喜欢这本书,我看了五遍。
  • 这个歌我每天都听一遍。
  • 请写十遍这个汉字。
  • 我和你说了两遍,你不可能不知道。

To show the total number of times an action is done use 次 (cì)

Common Phrases

This is also pretty clear, to show the total number of times an action is done only 次 (cì) can be used.

  • 看过一 kàn guò yī watched one time

听过三 ting guò sān listened three times

  • 去一 qù yī go one time
  • 去过多 qù guò went many times

Example Sentences

To represent the the total number of times an action is done use 次 (cì).

  • 我看过三次这个电影。
  • 我去过两次上海。
  • 我想去一次云南。
  • 我很喜欢红烧肉,我已经吃过很多次了。
  • 他 一 个 星期 去 两 次 健身房 。

To reference a specific time or the specific instance an action is done only 次 (cì) can be used

Common Phrases

To show this time, next time, every time, the first time, etc. use 次 (cì).

  • zhè this time
  • xià next time
  • Měi every time
  • 第一 dì-yī the first time


Example Sentences

Use 次 (cì) to reference the specific time or instance an action is done.

  • 今天 没有 时间 , 我们 下 次 学习 。
  • 这次 的 旅游 很 好玩。
  • 我 每次 上课 以前 都 会 准备 。











OLD VERSION!!!!!


Both 遍 (biàn) and 次 (cì) mean how many “times” an action is done.

Sometimes 遍 (biàn) and 次 (cì) can be used interchangeably, each with slightly different meaning.

遍 (biàn) 次 (cì)
Meaningdoing an action from beginning to endnumber of times an action occurs
Part of Speechmeasure word measure word
Formalityformal and informalformal and informal

The key difference between these words is 遍 means doing an action all the way from the beginning to the end, whereas 次 means the total number of times an action occurs.

Similarities

Common Phrases

These phrases work with both 遍 and 次, although the meaning is slightly different.

  • 看 过 很多 kàn guò hěn duō biàn watched many times from beginning to end
  • 看 过 很多 kàn guò hěn duō watched many times

Example Sentences

In the following sentences, both 遍 and 次 can be used interchangeably:

  • 我看过三遍这个电影。
  • 我看过三次这个电影。

Differences

Common Phrases

These phrases only work with 遍:

  • 再 说 一 zài shuō yī biàn say again from beginning to end
  • 再 听 一 zài tīng yī biàn listen again from beginning to end

Example Sentences

In the following sentences, only 遍 can be used:

  • 你可以再说一遍吗?
  • 我很喜欢这本书,我看了五遍。
  • 这个歌我每天都听一遍。
  • 请写十遍这个汉字。
  • 我和你说了两遍,你不可能不知道。

Common Phrases

These phrases work only with 次:

  • 去一 qù yī go one time
  • 去过多 qù guò went many times

Example Sentences

In the following sentences, only 次 can be used:

  • 我去过三次上海。
  • 我玩过一次这个游戏。
  • 我想再去一次云南。
  • 我们认识,我们在上海见过很多次。
  • 我很喜欢红烧肉,我已经吃过很多次了。