Difference between revisions of "Comparing "guanyu" and "duiyu""

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关于 and 对于 seem similar, since both of these propositions are used to point to specific people or things. However, when taking a closer look, the things they discuss and the angles they take are different.  
 
关于 and 对于 seem similar, since both of these propositions are used to point to specific people or things. However, when taking a closer look, the things they discuss and the angles they take are different.  
 
“关于”和“对于”看起来相似,都是引进具体的事物、人或是对象。但是实际看问题、谈问题的角度不一样。
 
  
 
== The point of emphasis is different 着重点不一样 ==
 
== The point of emphasis is different 着重点不一样 ==
  
 
对于 looks towards the object referred to, and usually the person or object referred to has adopted a certain attitude or has come into some kind of situation.  
 
对于 looks towards the object referred to, and usually the person or object referred to has adopted a certain attitude or has come into some kind of situation.  
 
“对于”着重指出对象,这种对象是当事人采取某种态度或存在某种情况所涉及的对象。
 
  
 
=== Structure ===
 
=== Structure ===
  
 
<div class="jiegou">
 
<div class="jiegou">
“对于”+对象
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对于 + person/thing
 
</div>
 
</div>
  
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关于 emphasizes a range, and it introduces all things that are related to it.  
 
关于 emphasizes a range, and it introduces all things that are related to it.  
  
“关于”着重指出范围,介绍出所关系到的事物。
 
  
 
=== Structure ===
 
=== Structure ===
  
 
<div class="jiegou">
 
<div class="jiegou">
“关于”+ (range), (things related) 范围,涉及的相关方面
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关于 + (range), (things related)
 
</div>
 
</div>
  
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* <em>关于</em>我们的学习方法,老师说有很多毛病。
 
* <em>关于</em>我们的学习方法,老师说有很多毛病。
 
</div>
 
</div>
用“关于”引出“礼物”,“学习方法”相关联的东西,比如第二个例句,光说“有毛病”不行,必须指出范围,是哪个方面有毛病,所以用“关于”引出这个范围。
 
  
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Notice that in the second example, if you were just to say "老师说有很多毛病" without first pointing out what it's refering to 学习方法, it would cause some confusion.
  
== Situations where they are the same 可以换用的情况==
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== Situations where they are the same ==
  
 
When the point emphasized is pretty clear (whether it be a range or a specific thing), then you can use either.  
 
When the point emphasized is pretty clear (whether it be a range or a specific thing), then you can use either.  
 
当着重点到底是指对象还是范围表现得不十分明确的时候,就可能出现换用情况。
 
  
 
=== Examples ===
 
=== Examples ===
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When 对于 and 关于 act as adverbial clauses (a group of related words that act like an adverb), they have somewhat different words orders. You can place 对于 before or after the subject, while 关于 can only be placed before the subject.
 
When 对于 and 关于 act as adverbial clauses (a group of related words that act like an adverb), they have somewhat different words orders. You can place 对于 before or after the subject, while 关于 can only be placed before the subject.
  
“对于”和“关于”在作状语的时候,“对于”可以放在主语之前,也可以放在主语之后。“关于”一定要放在主语前。
 
  
 
=== Structure ===
 
=== Structure ===

Revision as of 03:40, 1 April 2013

关于 and 对于 seem similar, since both of these propositions are used to point to specific people or things. However, when taking a closer look, the things they discuss and the angles they take are different.

The point of emphasis is different 着重点不一样

对于 looks towards the object referred to, and usually the person or object referred to has adopted a certain attitude or has come into some kind of situation.

Structure

对于 + person/thing

Examples

  • 对于 那 个 人 我 并 不 了解。
  • 对于我们 的 学习 方法,老师 很 满意。
  • 对于这 件 礼物 非常 珍惜。

关于 emphasizes a range, and it introduces all things that are related to it.


Structure

关于 + (range), (things related)

Examples

  • 关于这件礼物,有一个感人的故事。
  • 关于我们的学习方法,老师说有很多毛病。

Notice that in the second example, if you were just to say "老师说有很多毛病" without first pointing out what it's refering to 学习方法, it would cause some confusion.

Situations where they are the same

When the point emphasized is pretty clear (whether it be a range or a specific thing), then you can use either.

Examples

  • 关于/对于这份决议,大家还有什么补充吗?
  • 关于/对于这个问题,你们还有什么意见?

Both have different word orders when using them as “对于”和“关于”在作状语时,语序不一致

When 对于 and 关于 act as adverbial clauses (a group of related words that act like an adverb), they have somewhat different words orders. You can place 对于 before or after the subject, while 关于 can only be placed before the subject.


Structure

“关于......”,+主语+谓词......

“对于......”,+主语+谓词......

主语+“对于......”+谓词......

Sources and further reading

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