Difference between revisions of "Yidian and you yidian"

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Those two expresions differ in their place in the sentence, but also slightly in the meaning. 一点儿 is often used when compering, or expresing speaker’s wish or expectation, but with 有一点儿 one can express his own negative feelings.

Differences in the usage

一点儿

Meaning: quantifier (adverb)

Structure: adjective/verb + 一点儿

Meaning: Small quantity, Some (It is not an adverb, but 有＋一点儿)

Structure: 一点儿 + noun

Meaning: Nagation of an action

Structure: 一点儿+ 不／都＋不／没＋ verb

Sometimes character „一“ can be omitted

有一点儿（有点儿)

Meaning: quantifier, unsatisfaction

Structure: 有一点 + adjective/verb

Meaning: Small quantity, some (It is not an adverb, but 有＋一点)

structure: 有点 + noun

Meaning: Is not high

Structure: 有一点＋不＋ adjective/verb

对外汉语教学语法释疑201例 172

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-Both are conjuction that can be translated as „or“ into english. In general 或者 is mainly used in questions, while 还是 is mainly used in interrogative sentences. However there is also a more complex grammar.
+Those two expresions differ in their place in the sentence, but also slightly in the meaning. 一点儿 is often used when compering, or expresing speaker’s wish or expectation, but with 有一点儿 one can express his own negative feelings.
+Differences in the usage
-或者 (或是 - 书面语)
+一点儿
-It indicates, that there is no other option:
-Structure:
-N1 或者 N2
+Meaning: quantifier (adverb)
-Example:
+Structure: adjective/verb + 一点儿
-他明天来或者后天来？
+Meaning: Small quantity, Some (It is not an adverb, but 有 ＋ 一点儿)
-Structure:
+Structure: 一点儿 + noun
-V1 或者 V2
-Example:
+Meaning: Nagation of an action
-她到底要结婚或者不结婚？
+Structure: 一点 儿+ 不／都 ＋ 不／没 ＋ verb
+Sometimes character „一“ can be omitted
-Expresing alternatives
-Structure
+有一点儿 （有点儿)
-Statement + 或者 V1/N1 或者 V2/N1
-Example
-我明天不打算去上班，我或者睡觉，或者躺着看书。
+Meaning: quantifier, unsatisfaction
+Structure: 有一点 + adjective/verb
-Showing equivalence
+Meaning: Small quantity, some (It is not an adverb, but 有 ＋ 一点)
-Structure
+structure: 有点 + noun
-N1 或者 N2 + statement
-Example
+Meaning: Is not high
-蕃茄或者西红柿，是中国人最常吃的蔬菜。
+Structure: 有一点 ＋ 不 ＋ adjective/verb
+* [[Practicing HSK Grammar (语法精讲精炼)]] (pp. 43) [http://www.amazon.cn/mn/detailApp/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&tag=allset-23&linkCode=as2&asin=B001N6R7DI&camp=536&creative=3132&creativeASIN=B001N6R7DI →buy]
-还是
+* [[Chinese Grammar - Broken down into 100 items - Basic and Intermediate Levels (汉语语法百项讲练 - 初中级)]] (pp. 63) [http://www.amazon.cn/gp/product/B004WA6JSQ/ref%3das_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=allset-23&linkCode=as2&camp=536&creative=3132&creativeASIN=B004WA6JSQ →buy]
+对外汉语教学语法释疑201例 172
-Is often express uncertainity, choices.
-Structure
-是 N1 还是 N2
-Example
-你是老师还是学生？
-Structure
-(是) V1 还是 V2
-Example
-他(是)去那边还是来这边？
-Structure
-Quastion A 还是 B
-Example
-他去哪里，北京还是上海？
-Structure
-(是) V1 还是不V1
-Example
-他是来还是不来？
-It can be also used in sentenmces, that are not questions. It is often expresed with “不知道”“没决定”etc. to express uncertainty
-Structure
-uncertainty + possibility 1 还是 possibility 2
-Example
-我不知道他赚钱多还是不多。
-It can be also used decision that is made after comparing several options.
-Structure
-Option 1 还是 Option 2 ?
-还是 chosen option
-Example
-你想吃猪肉还是牛肉？
-我还是吃牛肉(吧)。
-First expressing the choices and afterwards expresing speakers own opinion.
-Structure
-Statement 1 还是 Statement 2, speaker’s opinion
-Example
-你想用自己的电脑，还是公司的电脑，我真的无所谓。
-* [[Practicing HSK Grammar (语法精讲精炼)]] (pp. 100 - 101) [http://www.amazon.cn/mn/detailApp/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&tag=allset-23&linkCode=as2&asin=B001N6R7DI&camp=536&creative=3132&creativeASIN=B001N6R7DI →buy]
-* [[Chinese Grammar - Broken down into 100 items - Basic and Intermediate Levels (汉语语法百项讲练 - 初中级)]] (pp. 257 - 261) [http://www.amazon.cn/gp/product/B004WA6JSQ/ref%3das_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=allset-23&linkCode=as2&camp=536&creative=3132&creativeASIN=B004WA6JSQ →buy]
-* [[Basic Patterns of Chinese Grammar]] (pp. 74) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1933330899/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=allset-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=1933330899 →buy]
-对外汉语教学语法释疑201例 (pp. 351)