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<li><span class="speaker">A:</span> 这 件 衣服 <em>有点</em> <strong>贵</strong> 啊 。<span class="pinyin">Zhè jiàn yīfu <em>yǒudiǎn</em> <strong>guì</strong> a.</span><span class="trans">This piece of clothing is a bit expensive.</span></li> | <li><span class="speaker">A:</span> 这 件 衣服 <em>有点</em> <strong>贵</strong> 啊 。<span class="pinyin">Zhè jiàn yīfu <em>yǒudiǎn</em> <strong>guì</strong> a.</span><span class="trans">This piece of clothing is a bit expensive.</span></li> | ||
<li><span class="speaker">B:</span>是 <strong>贵</strong> 了 <em>一点</em> ,但是 很 好看 ,我 很 喜欢 。<span class="pinyin">Shì <strong>guì</strong> le <em>yīdiǎn</em>, dànshì hěn hǎokàn, wǒ hěn xǐhuan.</span><span class="trans">It's a bit expensive, but it looks really good and I like it.</span></li> | <li><span class="speaker">B:</span>是 <strong>贵</strong> 了 <em>一点</em> ,但是 很 好看 ,我 很 喜欢 。<span class="pinyin">Shì <strong>guì</strong> le <em>yīdiǎn</em>, dànshì hěn hǎokàn, wǒ hěn xǐhuan.</span><span class="trans">It's a bit expensive, but it looks really good and I like it.</span></li> | ||
− | <li><span class="speaker">A:</span> | + | <li><span class="speaker">A:</span> 这 件 衣服 能 不 能 <strong>便宜</strong> <em>一点</em> ?<span class="pinyin"> Zhè jiàn yīfu néng bù néng <strong>piányi</strong> <em>yīdiǎn</em>?</span><span class="trans">Could we get this a little cheaper?</span></li> |
<li><span class="speaker">C:</span> 不 好意思 ,不能 还价 ,<em>一点 也 不</em> 能 <strong>便宜</strong> 。<span class="pinyin">Bù hǎoyìsi, bù néng huánjià, <em>yīdiǎn yě bù</em> néng <strong>piányi</strong>.</span><span class="trans">I'm sorry, no haggling. It can't be a little bit cheaper. Not even a bit.</span></li> | <li><span class="speaker">C:</span> 不 好意思 ,不能 还价 ,<em>一点 也 不</em> 能 <strong>便宜</strong> 。<span class="pinyin">Bù hǎoyìsi, bù néng huánjià, <em>yīdiǎn yě bù</em> néng <strong>piányi</strong>.</span><span class="trans">I'm sorry, no haggling. It can't be a little bit cheaper. Not even a bit.</span></li> | ||
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一点 (yīdiǎn) and 有点 (yǒudiǎn), usually pronounced 一点儿 (yīdiǎnr) and 有点儿 (yǒudiǎnr) in northern China, all mean pretty much the same thing, "a little" or "a bit," but they have different uses in sentences.
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Both Can Be Used for Describing Degree
Usage of 有点
有点 is placed before an adjective, and it usually expresses that the speaker doesn't want or has negative feelings about something.
A few examples:
- 我 今天 有点 累 。I am a little tired today.
- 这个 菜 有点 咸 。The dish is a little salty.
Usage of 一点
一点 can't be placed before an adjective. Instead, it is placed after adjectives. The adjectives that can be used are particularly limited. 一点 is often used when comparing, or expressing speaker’s wish or expectation.
A few examples:
- 请 说 慢 一点 。Please speak a little more slowly.
- 快 点,要 迟到 了。Hurry up a bit, we're going to be late.
- 老板 ,便宜 点 吧 。Sir, a little cheaper please. (directed to the owner of a shop)
有(一)点 Used for Describing Quantity
一点 can be placed before a noun to mean "small quantity," like 一点水,一点钱 while 有点 can't be used this way. Note that 有点 is also a shortened form of 有一点, which means "there is a little something.
A few examples to help you understand:
- 你 脸上 有一点 灰 。There's a little dirt on your face.
- 你 碗里 还 有 点 饭 ,吃 完 吧 。There's still a little rice in your bowl. Finish eating it.
Negative Forms
You can use 不 or 没 after 有点 and before the adjective, however the following adjective should have a positive connotation, like 高兴 (gāoxìng), 舒服 (shūfu), 喜欢(xǐhuan) etc. This makes the overall emotion expressed feel negative still.
Some examples:
- 孩子们 有点 不 喜欢 我们 的 新家 。Our children don't really like our new home.
- 她 有点 不 舒服 。She doesn't feel very well.
- 我 有点 不 相信 那个人 。I don't really believe that guy.
- 我们 有点 没 听懂 。We didn't really understand much.
一点 cannot be linked together directly, but can be used in the 一点也不 or 一点也没 structure to mean "not at all."
A few examples:
- 这个 菜 一点 也 不 辣 。This dish is not spicy at all.
- 作业 你 一点 也 没 做 ?You didn't do your homework at all?
Right and Wrong
- 今天 一点 热 。
- 今天 有点 热 。It's a little hot today.
- 我 一点 饿 。
- 我 有点 饿 。I'm a little hungry.
Example Dialog
- A: 这 件 衣服 有点 贵 啊 。This piece of clothing is a bit expensive.
- B:是 贵 了 一点 ,但是 很 好看 ,我 很 喜欢 。It's a bit expensive, but it looks really good and I like it.
- A: 这 件 衣服 能 不 能 便宜 一点 ?Could we get this a little cheaper?
- C: 不 好意思 ,不能 还价 ,一点 也 不 能 便宜 。I'm sorry, no haggling. It can't be a little bit cheaper. Not even a bit.
See also
- Expressing "a little too" with "you dian"
- Expressing "not at all" with "yidianr ye bu"
- Expressing "a bit too"
Sources and further reading
Books
- 现代汉语八百词(增订本) (pp. 602) [ →buy]
- 现代汉语八百词(增订本) (pp. 633) [ →buy]
- 对外汉语教学语法释疑201例 (pp. 172) [ →buy]
- Practicing HSK Grammar (语法精讲精炼) (pp. 43) Anything Goes (无所不谈) →buy
- Chinese Grammar - Broken down into 100 items - Basic and Intermediate Levels (汉语语法百项讲练 - 初中级) (pp. 63) Anything Goes (无所不谈) →buy
Websites
- Chinesegrammar.info: Where to place 一点儿 (yī diǎnr) in a sentence