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*这个 菜 <em>一点 也</em> <strong>辣</strong> 。<span class="pinyin">Zhège cài <em>yīdiǎn yě</em> <strong>là</strong>.</span><span class="trans">This dish is not spicy at all.</span>
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*这个 菜 <em>一点 也 </em> <strong>辣</strong> 。<span class="pinyin">Zhège cài <em>yīdiǎn yě </em> <strong>là</strong>.</span><span class="trans">This dish is not spicy at all.</span>
*这些 钱 你 <em>一点 也</em> <strong>花</strong> ?<span class="pinyin">Zhèxiē qián nǐ <em>yīdiǎn yě</em> <strong>méi huā</strong>?</span><span class="trans">You didn't spend the money at all?</span>
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*这些 钱 你 <em>一点 也 </em> <strong>花</strong> ?<span class="pinyin">Zhèxiē qián nǐ <em>yīdiǎn yě méi</em> <strong>huā</strong>?</span><span class="trans">You didn't spend the money at all?</span>
 
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Revision as of 07:35, 18 January 2018

一点 (yīdiǎn) and 有点 (yǒudiǎn), usually pronounced 一点儿 (yīdiǎnr) and 有点儿 (yǒudiǎnr) in northern China, all mean pretty much the same thing, "a little" or "a bit," but they have different uses in sentences.

一点 Used with Nouns

一点 can be placed before a noun to mean "small quantity," like 一点水,一点钱 while 有点 can't be used this way. Note that 有点 is also a shortened form of 有一点, which means "there is a little something.

A few examples to help you understand:

  • 你 脸上 有一点 yǒu yīdiǎn huī.There's a little dirt on your face.
  • 你 碗里 还 有 一点 ,吃 完 吧 。Nǐ wǎn lǐ hái yǒu yīdiǎn fàn, chī wán ba.There's still a little rice in your bowl. Finish eating it.

Used with Adjectives

有点 is placed before an adjective, and it usually expresses something that the speaker doesn't want or his own negative feelings about something.

Examples

  • 我 今天 有点 Jīntiān wǒmen yǒudiǎn lèi.I am a little tired today.
  • 这个 菜 有点 Zhège cài yǒudiǎn xián.The dish is a little salty.

一点 can't be placed before an adjective. Instead, it is placed after adjectives. The adjectives that can be used are particularly limited. 一点 is often used when comparing, or expressing speaker’s wish or expectation.

  • 老板 ,便宜 一点 吧。Lǎobǎn, piányi yīdiǎn ba.Sir, a little cheaper please. (directed to the owner of a shop)
  • 请 说 一点Qǐng shuō màn yīdiǎn.Please speak a little more slowly.
  • ,要 迟到 了。Kuài diǎn, yào chídào le.A bit faster, we will be late.

Negative Forms

You can use 不 or 没 after 有点 and before the adjective, however the following adjective should have a positive connotation, like 高兴 (gāoxìng), 舒服 (shūfu), 喜欢(xǐhuan) etc. This makes the overall emotion expressed feel negative still.

Examples

  • 我 今天 有点 不 舒服Wǒ jīntiān yǒudiǎn bù shūfu.Today I don't feel very good.
  • 有点儿 不 喜欢 这个 地方 。yǒudiǎn bù xǐhuan zhège dìfang.I don't like this place much.

一点 cannot be linked together directly, but can be used in the 一点也不 or 一点也没 structure to mean "not at all."

  • 这个 菜 一点 也 不 Zhège cài yīdiǎn yě bù .This dish is not spicy at all.
  • 这些 钱 你 一点 也 没 Zhèxiē qián nǐ yīdiǎn yě méi huā?You didn't spend the money at all?

Right and Wrong

下面这两个例子代表的是二者最常见的使用偏误。

  • 有点 饿I'm a bit hungry.
  • 一点 饿 。I'm a little hungry.
  • 老板 有点 生气The boss is a bit angry.
  • 老板 一点 生气 。The boss is a little angry.

Example Dialog

  • A: 这 件 衣服 有点儿啊 。This piece of clothing is a bit expensive.
  • B: 是 一点儿,但是 很 好看,我 很 喜欢。It's a bit expensive, but it looks really good, I like it.
  • A: 服务员,这 件 衣服 能 不 能 便宜 一点Attendant, could we get this a little cheaper?
  • C: 不好意思 ,不能 还价 ,所以 一点 也 不 能 便宜I'm sorry, no haggling. It can't be a little bit cheaper. Not even a bit.

See also

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