Difference between revisions of "Comparing "hui," "neng," "keyi""

Line 167: Line 167:
 
<li class="x">她 很 可以 吃 。</li>
 
<li class="x">她 很 可以 吃 。</li>
 
</ul>
 
</ul>
</div>
 
 
<div class="liju">
 
 
<ul>
 
<ul>
 
<li class="x">他 很可以 说 。</li>
 
<li class="x">他 很可以 说 。</li>
Line 179: Line 176:
 
<div class="liju">
 
<div class="liju">
  
*我 的 脚伤 好 了 ,现在 又 <em>能</em> 跳舞 了 。 <span class="trans">I am able to dance now since my foot injury is better. (The condition changed)</span>
+
*我 的 好 了 ,现在 又 <em>能</em> 跳舞 了 。<span class="pinyin">Wǒ de jiǎo hǎo le, xiànzài yòu <em>néng</em> tiàowǔ le.</span><span class="trans">I am able to dance now since my foot is better. (The condition changed)</span>
*我 学 了 两 个 月 ,现在 我 <em>会</em> 跳舞 了 。 <span class="trans">I studied for two months. I know how to dance now. (It's a learned skill)</span>
+
*我 学 了 两 个 月 ,现在 我 <em>会</em> 跳舞 了 。<span class="pinyin">Wǒ xué le liǎng gè yuè, xiànzài wǒ <em>huì</em> tiàowǔ le.</span><span class="trans">I studied for two months. I know how to dance now. (It's a learned skill)</span>
*我 父母 同意 了 ,现在 我 <em>可以</em> 跳舞 了 。 <span class="trans">My parents agreed. I'm allowed to dance now. (The dad gave permission)</span>
+
*我 爸妈 同意 了 ,现在 我 <em>可以</em> 跳舞 了 。<span class="pinyin">Wǒ fùmǔ tóngyì le, xiànzài wǒ <em>kěyǐ</em> tiàowǔ le.</span><span class="trans">My parents agreed. I'm allowed to dance now. (The dad gave permission)</span>
 
 
</div>
 
 
 
==Similarities==
 
  
会, 能, 可以 share a few  essential rules. The first common rule shared by these three is that none of them can be followed by an [[aspectual particle]].
 
 
<div class="liju">
 
<ul>
 
<li class="o"> 他会做饭。</li> <span class="trans"> He knows how to eat.</span>
 
<li class="x">他会过做饭。</li>
 
</ul>
 
 
</div>
 
</div>
  
Secondly, 会, 能, and 可以 have to come before any [[prepositional phrase|prepositional phrases]] or descriptive [[adverbial]] modifiers in the sentence.
+
Note that none of the three can be followed by the aspectual particle 过.
 
 
<div class="liju">
 
<ul>
 
<li class="o">你可以把课本再看一次,看完以后再来考试。<span class="trans">You can read over the textbook again, when you're done come back to take the test.</span></li>
 
<li class="x">你把课本可以再看一次, 看完以后再来考试。</li>
 
<li class="o">他们会努力地读一读。<span class="trans">They will seriously read it over.</span></li>
 
<li class="x">他们努力地会读一读。</li>
 
</ul>
 
</div>
 
 
 
== Example dialog ==
 
 
 
<div class="liju">
 
* A: 我 <em>可以</em> 和 他们 一起 踢 足球 吗? <span class="trans">Can I play soccer with them? (Am I allowed?)</span>
 
* B: 你 的 腿 还 没 好,现在 你 不 <em>能</em> 踢。 <span class="trans">Your foot still isn't better. You can't go right now. (His rule prohibits it)</span>
 
* A: 它 <em>会</em> 好 吗? <span class="trans">Will it get better? (会 indicates the future)</span>
 
* B: 嗯,你 放 心 吧,很 快 就 <em>会</em> 好 的。 <span class="trans"> Yes, don't worry, it will get better soon.</span>
 
</div>
 
  
 
For a good visualization on how these three overlap, check out the [http://www.sinosplice.com/life/archives/2009/10/13/chinese-modal-verb-venn-diagram| Chinese Modal Verb Venn Diagram].
 
For a good visualization on how these three overlap, check out the [http://www.sinosplice.com/life/archives/2009/10/13/chinese-modal-verb-venn-diagram| Chinese Modal Verb Venn Diagram].

Revision as of 09:53, 13 September 2017

This is one of the trickiest comparisons, as 会 (huì), 能 (néng), and 可以 (kěyǐ) are often translated as "can." Sometimes they are explained as: 会 means "know how to," 能 means "to be able to," and 可以 means "to have permission to." Actually, they overlap somewhat.

Basic Meanings

The words 会 (huì), 能 (néng), and 可以 (kěyǐ) actually overlap a little in meaning. The first step is to understand their basic meanings, though:

  1. 会 (huì) can mean "know how to" and can express an action that you had to learn or be trained in to do.
  2. 能 (néng) means "to be able to" and expresses having a certain ability or having obtained a certain minimum requirement.
  3. 可以 (kěyǐ) means "may" or "to be allowed to" and expresses having another person's permission.

As for overlap, this graphic helps explain nicely:

Hui-neng-keyi-venn-diagram.png

The regions marked by letters are explained in the sections below:

  • A: ability in the sense of “know how to” (会 (huì) is more common than 能 (néng))
  • B: permission/request (use 能 (néng) or 可以 (kěyǐ))
  • C: possibility (use 能 (néng) or 可以 (kěyǐ))
  • D: permission not granted (use 不可以 (bù kěyǐ))
  • E: impossibility (use 不能 (bù néng))

Expressing Ability

Both 会 and 能 can be used to express ability in something.

Structure

会/能 + Verb

Examples

  • 我们 都 游泳 。Wǒmen dōu huì yóuyǒng.We all can swim.
  • 他 不 修 电脑 。Tā bù huì xiū diànnǎo.He doesn't know how to fix computers.
  • 你 真的 吃 三 碗 米饭 吗 ?Nǐ zhēnde néng chī sān wǎn mǐfàn ma?Are you really able to eat three bowls of rice?

Example dialogue:

  • A: 你 说 中文 吗 ?A: Nǐ huì shuō Zhōngwén ma?Can you speak Chinese?
  • B: 不 好意思 ,我 只 说 一点 。B: Bù hǎoyìsi, wǒ zhǐ néng shuō yīdiǎn.Sorry, I can only speak a little.

Expressing Permission

可以 is used to ask for or give permission. However, 能 can also be used to replace 可以 interchangeably.

Note: When a question is asked using 能/可以 it can be answered with 不能/不可以, meaning no, and only 可以 meaning yes. Chinese don't really answer with just 能。

Structure

可以 / 能 + Verb

Examples

  • 可以 走 了 吗 ?kěyǐ zǒu le ma?Am I allowed to leave now?
  • 能 不 能 帮 我 一下 吗 ?néng bu néng bāng wǒ yīxià ma?Could you help me a bit?
  • 动物 不 进 。Dòngwù bù néng jìn.Animals are not allowed to come in.

Example dialogue:

  • A: 我 在 这里 抽烟 吗 ?A: Wǒ néng zài zhèlǐ chōuyān ma?Can I smoke here?
  • B: 不 可以B: Bù kěyǐ.No, you can't.

Expressing Possibility

能 and 可以 can also be used to express possibility.

Structure

可以 / 能 + Verb

Example

  • 明天 你 早点 来 吗 ?Míngtiān nǐ néng zǎodiǎn lái ma?Is it possible for you to come al little earlier tomorrow?
  • 可 不 可以 换 一 个 ?Kě bù kěyǐ huàn yī gè?Is it possible to change it?
  • 不 参加 吗 ?Néngbù cānjiā ma?Is it possible to not attend?

Example dialogue:

  • A: 能 不 能 取消 今天 的 课 ?A: Néng bù néng qǔxiāo jīntiān de kè?Is it possible to cancel today's lesson?
  • B: 不 B: Bù néng.Impossible.

Talking about the Future

Only 会 can be used to mean something is going to happen. It expresses that something in the future will happen and is often used to express trends or possibilities.

Examples

  • 你们 结婚 吗 ?Nǐmen huì jiéhūn ma?Are you going to get married?
  • 我 不 这么 做 。Wǒ bù huì zhème zuò.I won't do it like this.
  • 怪 我 吗 ?huì guài wǒ ma?Will you blame me?

Example dialogue:

  • A: 今天 下雨 吗 ?Jīntiān huì xiàyǔ ma?Is it going to rain today?
  • B: 我看 不 Wǒ kàn bù huì.I don't think it will.

Using Adverbs to Add Emphasis

By placing 很 (hěn) before 会, it adds emphasis to the level of ability and skill on the action presented. 很会 is commonly used to mean 'to be good at" and expresses being very skillful at something, or doing something very well. It can be translated as "really can," as in "you really can speak Chinese!," in other words, "you are good at speaking Chinese."

When 很 is placed in front of 能, the meaning takes on a amazed/surprised tone on the action. Although more rarely used, it emphasis quantity and amount. 很能 is most commonly used with 吃(chī) to eat, and 睡 (shuì) to sleep. It's like the English equivalent of saying you "can really" do something. For example saying that someone "can really sleep" means that they can sleep a lot.

Note: 很可以 is not a phrase and therefore can not be used with 会 to add emphasis. Other adverbs like 真(), 太 (), 这么() etc. can also be used.

Structure

很 + 会/能 + Verb

Examples

  • 这个 女生 打扮 。Zhège nǚshēng hěn huì dǎban.This girl knows how to dress up really well.
  • 我 妈妈 做饭 。My mom cooks very well.Wǒ māma hěn huì zuòfàn.My mother really knows how to cook.
  • 说话 。The subject has good speaking skills.hěn huì shuōhuà.He's a smooth talker.
  • 说 。hěn néng shuō.He's quite a talker.

Examples used with other adverbs:

  • 吃 !The subject can eat a lot.zhēn néng chī!Wow, you really can eat!
  • 中国 人 吃 !The subject has great knowledge about food and its culture, a true connoisseur.Zhōngguó rén zhēn huì chī!Chinese people really can eat.
  • 睡 了 。The subject can sleep a lot, for many hours.tài néng shuì le.He can really sleep.
  • 没想到 你 这么 吃苦 。Méixiǎngdào nǐ zhème néng chīkǔ.I didn't expect you to be a person who can handle so many burdens.


  • 她 很 可以 吃 。
  • 他 很可以 说 。

Similar expression with different meanings

  • 我 的 脚 好 了 ,现在 又 跳舞 了 。Wǒ de jiǎo hǎo le, xiànzài yòu néng tiàowǔ le.I am able to dance now since my foot is better. (The condition changed)
  • 我 学 了 两 个 月 ,现在 我 跳舞 了 。Wǒ xué le liǎng gè yuè, xiànzài wǒ huì tiàowǔ le.I studied for two months. I know how to dance now. (It's a learned skill)
  • 我 爸妈 同意 了 ,现在 我 可以 跳舞 了 。Wǒ fùmǔ tóngyì le, xiànzài wǒ kěyǐ tiàowǔ le.My parents agreed. I'm allowed to dance now. (The dad gave permission)

Note that none of the three can be followed by the aspectual particle 过.

For a good visualization on how these three overlap, check out the Chinese Modal Verb Venn Diagram.

See Also

Sources and further reading

Books

Dictionaries

Websites