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| − | * 我们 要 开始 这 个 项目 了，<em>至于</em> 什么 时候 开始，还 没 定。<span class="pinyin">Wǒmen yào kāishǐ zhège xiàngmù le, <em>zhìyú</em> shénme | + | * 我们 要 开始 这 个 项目 了，<em>至于</em> 什么 时候 开始，还 没 定。<span class="pinyin">Wǒmen yào kāishǐ zhège xiàngmù le, <em>zhìyú</em> shénme shíhou kāishǐ, hái méi dìng.</span><span class="trans">We're going to start this project, but as for when to start, we still haven't decided.</span> |
* <em>至于</em> 这 个 问题，我们 还 需要 进一步 讨论。<span class="pinyin"><em>Zhìyú</em> zhège wèntí, wǒmen hái xūyào jìnyībù tǎolùn.</span><span class="trans">As for this issue, we still need further discussion.</span> | * <em>至于</em> 这 个 问题，我们 还 需要 进一步 讨论。<span class="pinyin"><em>Zhìyú</em> zhège wèntí, wǒmen hái xūyào jìnyībù tǎolùn.</span><span class="trans">As for this issue, we still need further discussion.</span> | ||
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| − | * 这 点 小 事情，<em>至于</em> 这么 生气 吗？<span class="pinyin">Zhè diǎn xiǎo | + | * 这 点 小 事情，<em>至于</em> 这么 生气 吗？<span class="pinyin">Zhè diǎn xiǎo shìqing, <em>zhìyú</em> zhème shēngqì ma?</span><span class="trans">Over such a small thing, why are you so angry?</span> |
* 我 是 不 高兴，但 <em>不 至于</em> 不 跟 你 说话。<span class="pinyin">Wǒ shì bù gāoxìng, dàn <em>bù zhìyú</em> bù gēn nǐ shuōhuà.</span><span class="trans">I'm not happy, but not to the point that I won't talk with you.</span> | * 我 是 不 高兴，但 <em>不 至于</em> 不 跟 你 说话。<span class="pinyin">Wǒ shì bù gāoxìng, dàn <em>bù zhìyú</em> bù gēn nǐ shuōhuà.</span><span class="trans">I'm not happy, but not to the point that I won't talk with you.</span> | ||
* <em>至于</em> 吗 ？<span class="expl">Questioning someone's overreaction, perhaps</span><span class="pinyin"><em>Zhìyú</em> ma?</span><span class="trans">Is it that serious?</span> | * <em>至于</em> 吗 ？<span class="expl">Questioning someone's overreaction, perhaps</span><span class="pinyin"><em>Zhìyú</em> ma?</span><span class="trans">Is it that serious?</span> | ||
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<li class="x">你 <em>至于</em> 这 个 问题 怎么 看？<span class="pinyin">Nǐ <em>zhìyú</em> zhège wèntí, zěnme kàn?</span></li> | <li class="x">你 <em>至于</em> 这 个 问题 怎么 看？<span class="pinyin">Nǐ <em>zhìyú</em> zhège wèntí, zěnme kàn?</span></li> | ||
<li class="o"><em>至于</em> 这 个 问题， 你 怎么 看？<span class="pinyin"><em>Zhìyú</em> zhège wèntí, nǐ zěnme kàn?</span><span class="trans">Regarding this issue, what do you think?</span></li> | <li class="o"><em>至于</em> 这 个 问题， 你 怎么 看？<span class="pinyin"><em>Zhìyú</em> zhège wèntí, nǐ zěnme kàn?</span><span class="trans">Regarding this issue, what do you think?</span></li> | ||
| − | <li class="o"><em>至于</em> 他 的 无礼，你 是不是 不 太 高兴？<span class="pinyin"><em>Zhìyú</em> tā de | + | <li class="o"><em>至于</em> 他 的 无礼，你 是不是 不 太 高兴？<span class="pinyin"><em>Zhìyú</em> tā de wúlǐ, nǐ shì bu shì bù tài gāoxìng?</span></li> |
| − | <li class="o"><em>对于</em> 他 的 无礼，你 是不是 不 太 高兴？<span class="pinyin"><em>Duìyú</em> tā de | + | <li class="o"><em>对于</em> 他 的 无礼，你 是不是 不 太 高兴？<span class="pinyin"><em>Duìyú</em> tā de wúlǐ, nǐ shì bu shì bù tài gāoxìng?</span><span class="trans">Are you not to happy about his rude behavior?</span></li> |
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== Sources and further reading == | == Sources and further reading == | ||
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The differences between 对于 (duìyú) and 至于 (zhìyú) can be confusing. They both have similar meanings like "concerning," "regarding" or "as for," and differences are subtle.
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Use 对于 to Emphasizes the Object
对于 usually emphasizes the thing that it is pointing to. Usually where you use 对 you can also use 对于.
Structure
As an adverb or adverbial clause, you can place 对于 before or after the subject. It cannot be an attributive modifier (coming before a noun).
Subj. + 对于 + Object + Predicate
对于 + Object， Subj. + Predicate
Examples
- 对于 电脑 ，我 什么 都 不 懂。With regards to computers, I don't understand anything.
- 我 对于 电脑 什么 都 不 懂。I don't understand anything about computers.
- 对于 这 种 人，就 不 该 跟 他们 讲 道理。With this kind of person, you shouldn't try to reason with them.
Use 至于 to Change the Topic
Note that to change a topic, there needs to be another topic first. So you don't use 至于 to start an entirely new discussion free of any existing topic.
Structure
As a preposition, 至于 points to another topic, serving to change the subject of conversation.
至于 + Topic，Subj. + Verb Phrase
Examples
- 我们 要 开始 这 个 项目 了，至于 什么 时候 开始，还 没 定。We're going to start this project, but as for when to start, we still haven't decided.
- 至于 这 个 问题，我们 还 需要 进一步 讨论。As for this issue, we still need further discussion.
Use 至于 to Emphasize Degree
Structure
As an adverb, it expresses "having reached a certain degree." After it you can add words or phrases that describe degree. You can also say 至于 by itself or use 不至于.
（不）至于 + Degree
Examples
- 这 点 小 事情，至于 这么 生气 吗？Over such a small thing, why are you so angry?
- 我 是 不 高兴，但 不 至于 不 跟 你 说话。I'm not happy, but not to the point that I won't talk with you.
- 至于 吗 ？Questioning someone's overreaction, perhapsIs it that serious?
Common Mistakes
- 你 至于 这 个 问题 怎么 看？
- 至于 这 个 问题， 你 怎么 看？Regarding this issue, what do you think?
- 至于 他 的 无礼，你 是不是 不 太 高兴？
- 对于 他 的 无礼，你 是不是 不 太 高兴？Are you not to happy about his rude behavior?
Sources and further reading
Books
- 对外汉语教学语法释疑201例 (pp. 203, 207) [ →buy]
- 现代汉语八百词（增订本） (pp. 240, 683) [ →buy]
- 现代汉语虚词例释 (pp. 211,651) 卓越汉语－公司实战篇 →buy
- 卓越汉语－公司实战篇 (pp. 98) 卓越汉语－公司实战篇 →buy
Dictionaries
- 现代汉语词典（第5版） (pp. 501, 346, 1755) 卓越汉语－公司实战篇 →buy
