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− | + | * [[现代汉语八百词(增订本)]] (关于vs 对于 p.240, 至于 p.683) [http://www.amazon.cn/%E7%8E%B0%E4%BB%A3%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD%E5%85%AB%E7%99%BE%E8%AF%8D/dp/B001198GSW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1345693275&sr=8-1 →buy] | |
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− | + | * [[卓越汉语-公司实战篇]] (p. 98) [http://www.amazon.cn/%E5%8D%93%E8%B6%8A%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD-%E5%85%AC%E5%8F%B8%E5%AE%9E%E6%88%98%E7%AF%87-%E8%83%A1%E7%81%B5%E5%9D%87/dp/B003QZWQ6M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347863170&sr=8-1 →buy] | |
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=== Dictionaries === | === Dictionaries === |
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The differences between 对于 (duìyú), and 至于 (zhìyú) can be confusing. They both have similar meanings like "concerning," "regarding" or "as for." Learn what they are in this article!
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对于 emphasizes the object referred to
对于 usually emphasizes the thing that it is pointing to. Usually where you use 对 you can use 对于.
Structure
As an adverb or adverbial clause, you can place if before or after the subject. It cannot be an attributive modifier.
Subj. + 对于 + Modifier + Predicate
对于 + Modifier, Subj. + Predicate
Examples
- 对于 这 种 人,就 不 该 跟 他们 讲 道理。As for this kind of person, you are not supposed to reason with them.
- 对于 电脑,我 什么 都 不 懂。I don't understand anything about computers.
- 我 对于 电脑 什么 都 不 懂。I don't understand anything about computers.
Special conditions
Sometimes, 关于 and 对于 don't have any differences at all, however those instances are few. For example:
Examples
- 对于 这个问题 , 我没有意见 。 As for this problem, I don't have any ideas.
- 关于 这个问题 , 我没有意见 。 As for this problem, I don't have any ideas.
- 对于 这个 话题,我 觉得 没什么 可 讨论 的。For this topic, I don't think there is anything to be discussed.
- 关于 这个话题,我觉得没什么可 讨论 的。For this topic, I don't think there is anything to be discussed.
至于 can change the topic
Structure
As a preposition, it points to another topic, and emphasizes changing the subject of conversation.
至于 + Topic,Subj. + Verb Phrase
Examples
- 我们 要 开始 这 个 项目 了,至于 什么 时候 开始,还 没 定。We're going to start this project, but we still haven't decided when.
- 至于 这 个 问题,我们 还 需要 进一步 讨论。For this problem, we need a further discussion.
至于 can also emphasize degree
Structure
As an adverb, it expresses "having reached a certain degree or step." After it you can link it to words or phrases that describe degree. You can also say 至于 by itself or use 不至于.
(不)至于 + Degree
Examples
- 这 点 小 事情,至于 这么 生气 吗?With such a small thing, why are you so angry?
- 我 是 不 高兴,但 不至于 不 跟 你 说话。I'm not happy, but not to the point that I won't talk with you.
Examples of right and wrong sentences
- 你 关于 这 个 问题 怎么 看?
- 关于 这 个 问题, 你 怎么 看?
- 关于 他 的 无礼,你 是不是 不 太 高兴?
- 对于 他 的 无礼,你 是不是 不 太 高兴?
Example Dialog
- A: 我们 今天 的 会议 内容 是 讨论 一下 关于 开发 中国 市场 的 问题。The content of today's meeting is a discussion about the problems in developing China's markets.
- B: 我 的 意见 是 对于 中国 市场 我们 还 不 了解,最好 是 再 等等。My opinion towards the Chinese markets is that we still don't understand. The best thing is to wait some more.
- A: 对于 是 不 是 开发 中国 市场 我们 已经 决定 了,现在 的 问题 是 什么 时候 开发。We've already decided about developing the markets, the problem now is when to start.
- B:那么,关于 这 个 议题,我 没有 什么 可 说 的 了。Then, as for this topic, I have nothing more to say.
See Also
Sources and further reading
Books
- 对外汉语教学语法释疑201例 (对于 vs 关于 p.203, 关于vs 至于 p.207) →buy
- 现代汉语八百词(增订本) (关于vs 对于 p.240, 至于 p.683) →buy
- 现代汉语虚词例释 (关于 vs 对于 p.211, 至于p.651)
→buy
- 卓越汉语-公司实战篇 (p. 98) →buy
Dictionaries
- 现代汉语词典(第5版) (关于p.501,对于 p.346,至于 p.1755) →buy