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You might be familiar with [[Expressing experience with "guo"|using 过 (guo) to indicate that an '''action has been experienced''' in the past]], but then also see it used together with [[Expressing completion with "le"|了 (le)]].  What's going on here?  A special explanation is in order.
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== The Basic Pattern ==
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You might be familiar with [[Expressing experiences with "guo"|using 过 (guo) to indicate that an '''action has been experienced''' in the past]], but then also see it used together with [[Expressing completion with "le"|了 (le)]].  What's going on here?  If you're already familiar with the basic usage of both 了 (le) and 过 (guo), then a special explanation of how they sometimes work together is now in order.
  
The typical pattern you'll see is:
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== Basic Pattern ==
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=== Structure ===
  
 
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Verb + 过 + 了
 
Verb + 过 + 了
 
 
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You'll notice that this pattern is often used for very everyday behaviors.  It's used for actions like "eating" and "brushing one's teeth" and "taking a shower."
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You'll notice that this pattern is often used for everyday behaviors.  It's used for actions like "eating" and "brushing one's teeth" and "taking a shower."
  
Some examples in Chinese:
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=== Examples ===
  
 
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* 她 吃 <em>过</em> <em>了</em>。 <span class="expl">"She ate (already)."</span>
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* 她 吃 <em>过</em> <em>了</em>。 <span class="pinyin">Tā chī <em>guo</em> <em>le</em>.</span><span class="trans">She has eaten (already).</span>
* 牙 刷 <em>过</em> <em>了</em>。 <span class="expl">"(I) brushed my teeth (already)."</span>
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* 牙 刷 <em>过</em> <em>了</em>。<span class="pinyin">Yá shuā <em>guo</em> <em>le</em>.</span><span class="trans">I've brushed my teeth (already).</span>
* 他 洗 <em>过</em> <em>了</em>。 <span class="expl">"He has washed (already)."</span>
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* 洗 <em>过</em> <em>了</em>。<span class="pinyin">Xǐ <em>guo</em> <em>le</em>.</span><span class="trans">I've showered (already).</span>
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* 我们 看 <em>过</em> <em>了</em>。 <span class="pinyin">Wǒmen kàn <em>guo</em> <em>le</em>.</span><span class="trans">We've seen it (already).</span>
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* 他们 见 <em>过</em> <em>了</em>。<span class="pinyin">Tāmen jiàn <em>guo</em> <em>le</em>.</span><span class="trans">They've met (already).</span>
  
 
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Verb + 过 + Obj. + 了
Verb + 过 + Object + 了
 
 
 
 
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* 吃 <em>过</em> <strong>饭</strong> <em>了</em><span class="expl">"She has eaten (a meal) (already)."</span>
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* 吃 <em>过</em> <strong>饭</strong> <em>了</em> 吗?<span class="pinyin">Nǐ chī <em>guo</em> <strong>fàn </strong> <em>le</em> ma? </span><span class="trans">Have you eaten (already)?</span>
* 我 刷 <em>过</em> <strong>牙</strong> <em>了</em>。 <span class="expl">"I have brushed my teeth (already)."</span>
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* 我 刷 <em>过</em> <strong>牙</strong> <em>了</em>。 <span class="pinyin">Wǒ shuā <em>guo</em> <strong>yá </strong> <em>le</em>.</span><span class="trans">I have brushed my teeth (already).</span>
* 他 洗 <em>过</em> <strong>澡</strong> <em>了</em>。 <span class="expl">"He has had a shower (already)."</span>
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* 他 洗 <em>过</em> <strong>澡</strong> <em>了</em>。 <span class="pinyin">Tā xǐ <em>guo</em> <strong>zǎo</strong> <em>le</em>.</span><span class="trans">He has showered (already).</span>
 
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* 我 给 他 打 <em>过</em> <strong>电话</strong> <em>了</em>。<span class="pinyin">Wǒ gěi tā dǎ <em>guo</em> <strong>diànhuà</strong> <em>le</em>.</span><span class="trans">I called him (already).</span>
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* 客户 看 <em>过</em> <strong>合同</strong> <em>了</em> 吗?<span class="pinyin">Kèhù kàn <em>guo</em> <strong> hétong </strong> <em>le</em> ma? </span><span class="trans">Has the client read the contract (already)?</span>
 
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== What the does ==
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== What 过 (guo) Does ==
  
You would be right to point out that 过 is mainly used to call attention to the fact that someone ''has had an '''experience'''''. This is the basic pattern pointed out in the article on the [[Expressing experiences with verbs|basic usage of the aspectual particle 过]].  In the examples above, though, it's not any "once-in-a-lifetime" ''experiences'' being expressed, it's more just the information that these actions are ''done.''  Here, 过 and 了 work together to emphasize that an action is ''already done''. This is why the translations on the side add the word "already" on parentheses on the end; this is the feeling the sentences give you.  In fact, to emphasize the idea of ''already done'' even further, you could add the word for "already," 已经, before the verbs in the examples below, and it also works just fine:
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You would be right to point out that 过 (guo) is mainly used to call attention to the fact that someone ''has had an '''experience.''''' This is the basic pattern pointed out in the article on the [[Expressing experiences with "guo"|basic usage of the aspectual particle 过]] (guo).  In the examples above, though, it's not any "once-in-a-lifetime" ''experiences'' being expressed, it's more just the information that these actions are ''done.''  Here, 过 (guo) and 了 (le) work together to emphasize that an action is ''already done.''  This is why the translations on the side add the word "already" in parentheses at the end; this is the feeling the sentences give you.  In fact, to emphasize the idea of ''already done'' even further, you could add the word for "already," 已经 (yǐjīng), before the verbs in the examples below, and it also works just fine:
  
 
<div class="liju">
 
<div class="liju">
  
* 她 <strong>已经</strong> 吃 <em>过</em> 饭 <em>了</em>。 <span class="expl">"She has <strong>already</strong> eaten (a meal)."</span>
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* 她 <strong>已经</strong> 吃 <em>过</em> 饭 <em>了</em>。 <span class="pinyin"><strong>yǐjīng </strong> chī <em>guo</em> fàn <em>le</em>.</span><span class="trans">She has already eaten (a meal).</span>
* 我 <strong>已经</strong> 刷 <em>过</em> 牙 <em>了</em>。 <span class="expl">"I have <strong>already</strong> brushed my teeth."</span>
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* 我 <strong>已经</strong> 刷 <em>过</em> 牙 <em>了</em>。 <span class="pinyin"><strong>yǐjīng </strong> shuā <em>guo</em> yá <em>le</em>.</span><span class="trans">I have already brushed my teeth.</span>
* 他 <strong>已经</strong> 洗 <em>过</em> 澡 <em>了</em>。 <span class="expl">"He has <strong>already</strong> had a shower ."</span>
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* 他 <strong>已经</strong> 洗 <em>过</em> 澡 <em>了</em>。 <span class="pinyin"><strong>yǐjīng </strong> xǐ <em>guo</em> zǎo <em>le</em>.</span><span class="trans">He has already had a shower.</span>
  
 
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== When to use + 了 ==
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== When to Use (guo) with (le) ==
  
 
So when would you use the sentences above?  You'd be emphasizing that the action has ''already'' occurred (so it doesn't need to be done again), so it would probably be something like this:
 
So when would you use the sentences above?  You'd be emphasizing that the action has ''already'' occurred (so it doesn't need to be done again), so it would probably be something like this:
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* 她 想 吗 ? <span class="expl">"Does she want to eat?"</span>
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* 她 <strong>已经</strong> 吃 <em>过</em> 饭 <em>了</em>。 <span class="expl">"She has <strong>already</strong> eaten (a meal)."</span>
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<li><span class="speaker">A:</span>她 想 吃饭 吗 ? <span class="pinyin">Tā xiǎng chīfàn ma?</span><span class="trans">Does she want to eat?</span></li>
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<li><span class="speaker">B:</span>她 <strong>已经</strong> 吃 <em>过</em> 饭 <em>了</em>。 <span class="pinyin"><strong>yǐjīng </strong> chī <em>guo</em> fàn <em>le</em>.</span><span class="trans">She has already eaten.</span></li>
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* 别 忘记 刷牙。 <span class="expl">"Don't forget to brush your teeth."</span>
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* 我 <strong>已经</strong> 刷 <em>过</em> 牙 <em>了</em>。 <span class="expl">"I have <strong>already</strong> brushed my teeth."</span>
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<li><span class="speaker">A:</span>别 忘记 刷牙。 <span class="pinyin">Bié wàngjì shuā yá.</span><span class="trans">Don't forget to brush your teeth.</span></li>
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<li><span class="speaker">B:</span>我 <strong>已经</strong> 刷 <em>过</em> 牙 <em>了</em>。<span class="pinyin"><strong>yǐjīng </strong> shuā <em>guo</em> yá <em>le</em>.</span><span class="trans">I have already brushed my teeth.</span></li>
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* 他 应该 洗澡。 <span class="expl">"He should take a shower."</span>
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* 他 <strong>已经</strong> 洗 <em>过</em> <em></em><span class="expl">"He has <strong>already</strong> had a shower ."</span>
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<li><span class="speaker">A:</span>他 应该 洗澡 。 <span class="pinyin">Tā yīnggāi xǐzǎo.</span><span class="trans">He should take a shower.</span></li>
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<li><span class="speaker">B:</span>他 <strong>已经</strong> 洗 <em>过 </em> 。 <span class="pinyin">Tā <strong>yǐjīng</strong> xǐ <em>guo le</em>.</span><span class="trans">He has already showered.</span></li>
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== See Also ==
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* [[Expressing experiences with "guo"]]
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* [[Expressing completion with "le"]]
  
 
== Sources and further reading ==
 
== Sources and further reading ==
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=== Books ===
 
=== Books ===
  
* [[A Practical Chinese Grammar For Foreigners (外国人实用汉语语法) ]] (pp. 138) [http://www.amazon.cn/mn/detailApp?_encoding=UTF8&tag=allset-23&linkCode=as2&asin=B001J0ADWA&camp=536&creative=3132&creativeASIN=B001J0ADWA →buy]
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{{Source|A Practical Chinese Grammar For Foreigners (外国人实用汉语语法) |138}}
* [[Chinese Grammar Without Tears (简明汉语语法学习手册) ]] (pp. 73-74) [http://www.amazon.cn/mn/detailApp/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&tag=allset-23&linkCode=as2&asin=B0041UGAJU&camp=536&creative=3132&creativeASIN=B0041UGAJU →buy]
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{{Source|Chinese Grammar Without Tears (简明汉语语法学习手册) |73-74}}
* [[Integrated Chinese: Level 2, Part 1]] (pp. 345 - 347) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0887276792/ref%3das_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=allset-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=0887276792 →buy]
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{{Source|Integrated Chinese: Level 2, Part 1|345 - 347}}
* [[Modern Mandarin Chinese Grammar: A Practical Guide]] (pp. 76-77, 230-232) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0415700108?ie=UTF8&tag=allset-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0415700108 →buy]
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{{Source|Modern Mandarin Chinese Grammar: A Practical Guide|76-77, 230-232}}
* [[New Practical Chinese Reader 2 (新实用汉语课本2)]] (pp. 175 - 176) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/7561911297/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=allset-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=7561911297 →buy]
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{{Source|New Practical Chinese Reader 2 (新实用汉语课本2)|175 - 176}}
  
 
=== Websites ===
 
=== Websites ===
  
 
* ChinesePod: [http://chinesepod.com/lessons/%E8%BF%87guo Qing Wen - 过(guo)] (free podcast content)
 
* ChinesePod: [http://chinesepod.com/lessons/%E8%BF%87guo Qing Wen - 过(guo)] (free podcast content)
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{{Used for|Referring to the past}}
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{{Used for|Expressing completion}}
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Latest revision as of 08:57, 21 April 2021

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You might be familiar with using 过 (guo) to indicate that an action has been experienced in the past, but then also see it used together with 了 (le). What's going on here? If you're already familiar with the basic usage of both 了 (le) and 过 (guo), then a special explanation of how they sometimes work together is now in order.

Basic Pattern

Structure

Verb + 过 + 了

You'll notice that this pattern is often used for everyday behaviors. It's used for actions like "eating" and "brushing one's teeth" and "taking a shower."

Examples

  • 她 吃 Tā chī guo le.She has eaten (already).
  • 牙 刷 Yá shuā guo le.I've brushed my teeth (already).
  • guo le.I've showered (already).
  • 我们 看 Wǒmen kàn guo le.We've seen it (already).
  • 他们 见 Tāmen jiàn guo le.They've met (already).

The Pattern with an Object

For the examples above, you could have inserted an object to modify the basic pattern, getting this:

Verb + 过 + Obj. + 了

The object has been inserted in the sentences below:

  • 你 吃 吗?Nǐ chī guo fàn le ma? Have you eaten (already)?
  • 我 刷 Wǒ shuā guo le.I have brushed my teeth (already).
  • 他 洗 Tā xǐ guo zǎo le.He has showered (already).
  • 我 给 他 打 电话 Wǒ gěi tā dǎ guo diànhuà le.I called him (already).
  • 客户 看 合同 吗?Kèhù kàn guo hétong le ma? Has the client read the contract (already)?

What 过 (guo) Does

You would be right to point out that 过 (guo) is mainly used to call attention to the fact that someone has had an experience. This is the basic pattern pointed out in the article on the basic usage of the aspectual particle 过 (guo). In the examples above, though, it's not any "once-in-a-lifetime" experiences being expressed, it's more just the information that these actions are done. Here, 过 (guo) and 了 (le) work together to emphasize that an action is already done. This is why the translations on the side add the word "already" in parentheses at the end; this is the feeling the sentences give you. In fact, to emphasize the idea of already done even further, you could add the word for "already," 已经 (yǐjīng), before the verbs in the examples below, and it also works just fine:

  • 已经yǐjīng chī guo fàn le.She has already eaten (a meal).
  • 已经yǐjīng shuā guole.I have already brushed my teeth.
  • 已经yǐjīng guo zǎo le.He has already had a shower.

When to Use 过 (guo) with 了 (le)

So when would you use the sentences above? You'd be emphasizing that the action has already occurred (so it doesn't need to be done again), so it would probably be something like this:

For the eating example:

  • A:她 想 吃饭 吗 ? Tā xiǎng chīfàn ma?Does she want to eat?
  • B:已经yǐjīng chī guo fàn le.She has already eaten.

For the tooth brushing example:

  • A:别 忘记 刷牙。 Bié wàngjì shuā yá.Don't forget to brush your teeth.
  • B:已经yǐjīng shuā guole.I have already brushed my teeth.

For the taking a shower example:

  • A:他 应该 洗澡 。 Tā yīnggāi xǐzǎo.He should take a shower.
  • B:已经过 了yǐjīngguo le.He has already showered.

See Also

Sources and further reading

Books

Websites