Difference between revisions of "Taiwanese "you""

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* 你 <em>有</em> 说 错 这 句 话 。<span class="trans">You said this sentence wrong.</span>
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*你 <em>有</em> 说 错 这 句 话 。<span class="trans">You said this sentence wrong.</span>
* 老板 <em>有</em> 学 会  上海话 。<span class="trans">The boss studied the Shanghai dialect.</span>
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*老板 <em>有</em> 学 会  上海话 。<span class="trans">The boss studied the Shanghai dialect.</span>
* 我们 <em>有</em> 听 懂 你的 话 。<span class="trans">I understood what you said.</span>
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*我们 <em>有</em> 听 懂 你的 话 。<span class="trans">I understood what you said.</span>
* 我 <em>有</em> 看到 她 跟 你 前男友 在 一起。<span class="trans">I saw her and your ex-boyfriend together.</span>
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*我 <em>有</em> 看到 她 跟 你 前男友 在 一起。<span class="trans">I saw her and your ex-boyfriend together.</span>
* 我们 都<em>有</em> 听到 宝宝 哭。<span class="trans">We all heard the baby cry. </span>
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*我们 都 <em>有</em> 听到 宝宝 哭。<span class="trans">We all heard the baby cry. </span>
  
 
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== Action verbs ==
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== Action Verbs ==
  
 
There are also verbs categorized as “action verbs.” In Taiwanese Mandarin, when 有 is put in front of these verbs, it actually indicates that the verb is still continuing.
 
There are also verbs categorized as “action verbs.” In Taiwanese Mandarin, when 有 is put in front of these verbs, it actually indicates that the verb is still continuing.
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* 我 <em>有</em> 吃 药,可是 感冒 还是 美好 。<span class="trans">I have taken medicine, but my cold hasn’t gotten better. </span>
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*我 <em>有</em> 吃 药,可是 感冒 还是 美好 。<span class="trans">I have taken medicine, but my cold hasn’t gotten better. </span>
* 他 <em>有</em> 告诉 我 你的 电话 号码 。<span class="trans">He has told me your phone number. </span>
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*他 <em>有</em> 告诉 我 你的 电话 号码 。<span class="trans">He has told me your phone number. </span>
* 我 <em>有</em> 考虑 你 提的 建议。<span class="trans">I have considered the suggestion you proposed.  </span>
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*我 <em>有</em> 考虑 你 提的 建议。<span class="trans">I have considered the suggestion you proposed.  </span>
* 她 <em>有</em> 拿 你的 钱 吗?<span class="trans">Has she taken your money? </span>
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*她 <em>有</em> 拿 你的 钱 吗?<span class="trans">Has she taken your money? </span>
  
 
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* 第一次 做 这么 多 运动,真的 <em>有</em> 累 <strong>到</strong> 。<span class="trans">The first time I exercised so much, I was so tired. </span>
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*第一次 做 这么 多 运动,真的 <em>有</em> 累 <strong>到</strong> 。<span class="trans">The first time I exercised so much, I was so tired. </span>
* 他 突然 提出 跟 我 分手,我 真的 <em>有</em> 伤 <strong>到</strong> 。<span class="trans">The first time I exercised so much, I was so tired. </span>
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*他 突然 提出 跟 我 分手,我 真的 <em>有</em> 伤 <strong>到</strong> 。<span class="trans">The first time I exercised so much, I was so tired. </span>
* 在 这里 可以 免费 吃,还 以 免费 住,<em>有</em> 爽 <strong>到</strong> !<span class="trans">The first time I exercised so much, I was so tired. </span>
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*在 这里 可以 免费 吃,还 以 免费 住,<em>有</em> 爽 <strong>到</strong> !<span class="trans">The first time I exercised so much, I was so tired. </span>
* 结婚 前 你 在 二手 市场 买了 那么 多 家具,<em>有</em> 省 <strong>到</strong> 吗?<span class="trans">The first time I exercised so much, I was so tired. </span>
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*结婚 前 你 在 二手 市场 买了 那么 多 家具,<em>有</em> 省 <strong>到</strong> 吗?<span class="trans">The first time I exercised so much, I was so tired. </span>
* 你们 突然 大叫着 跑出来,我 真的<em>有</em> 吓 <strong>到</strong> !<span class="trans">You guys suddenly came running out screaming loudly. I was so scared! </span>
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*你们 突然 大叫着 跑出来,我 真的<em>有</em> 吓 <strong>到</strong> !<span class="trans">You guys suddenly came running out screaming loudly. I was so scared! </span>
* 今天 去 了 DisneyLand,真的 <em>有</em> 幸福 <strong>到</strong> 。<span class="trans">Today I went to Disney Land. I was really happy. </span>
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*今天 去 了 DisneyLand,真的 <em>有</em> 幸福 <strong>到</strong> 。<span class="trans">Today I went to Disney Land. I was really happy. </span>
* 这家 店 今天 全场 打一折,我 买了 好 多,<em>有</em> 赚 <strong>到</strong> 。<span class="trans">Everything in this store is 90% off today. I bought a lot. It was so cheap. </span>
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*这家 店 今天 全场 打一折,我 买了 好 多,<em>有</em> 赚 <strong>到</strong> 。<span class="trans">Everything in this store is 90% off today. I bought a lot. It was so cheap. </span>
  
 
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* 你 跟 你 妈妈 <em>有</em> 像 耶 !<span class="trans">You and your mom look alike! </span>
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*你 跟 你 妈妈 <em>有</em> 像 耶 !<span class="trans">You and your mom look alike! </span>
* 他 <em>有</em> 知道 你 换 工作 的 事情。<span class="trans">He knows you that you now have a different job. </span>
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*他 <em>有</em> 知道 你 换 工作 的 事情。<span class="trans">He knows you that you now have a different job. </span>
* 她 <em>有</em> 很 讨厌 你 耶 !你 不 知道 吗 ?<span class="trans">She really hates you! You didn’t know? </span>
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*她 <em>有</em> 很 讨厌 你 耶 !你 不 知道 吗 ?<span class="trans">She really hates you! You didn’t know? </span>
* 我 最近 <em>有</em> 生病。<span class="trans">I’ve been sick recently. </span>
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*我 最近 <em>有</em> 生病。<span class="trans">I’ve been sick recently. </span>
* 我们 <em>有</em> 丢 手机 和 钱包。<span class="trans">We lost our phone and wallet. </span>
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*我们 <em>有</em> 丢 手机 和 钱包。<span class="trans">We lost our phone and wallet. </span>
  
 
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* 我 刚才 <em>有</em>上 厕所 <strong>了</strong>。<span class="trans">I just now finished using the restaurant. </span>
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*我 刚才 <em>有</em>上 厕所 <strong>了</strong>。<span class="trans">I just now finished using the restaurant. </span>
* 他 <em>有</em> 吃 中饭 <strong>了</strong> 。<span class="trans">He finished eating lunch. </span>
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*他 <em>有</em> 吃 中饭 <strong>了</strong> 。<span class="trans">He finished eating lunch. </span>
* 老板 早上<em>有</em> 喝 咖啡 <strong>了</strong>。<span class="trans">The boss drank coffee this morning. </span>
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*老板 早上<em>有</em> 喝 咖啡 <strong>了</strong>。<span class="trans">The boss drank coffee this morning. </span>
* 我 <em>有</em> 发 微信 给 你 <strong>了</strong>。<span class="trans">I already sent you a WeChat. </span>
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*我 <em>有</em> 发 微信 给 你 <strong>了</strong>。<span class="trans">I already sent you a WeChat. </span>
* 我们 昨晚 <em>有</em> 吵架 <strong>了</strong> 。<span class="trans">We fought last night. </span>
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*我们 昨晚 <em>有</em> 吵架 <strong>了</strong> 。<span class="trans">We fought last night. </span>
  
 
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Subject + 有 + Verb + 过 + Object
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* 我 <em>有</em> 去 <strong>过</strong> 中国。<span class="trans">I have been to China.</span>
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*我 <em>有</em> 去 <strong>过</strong> 中国。<span class="trans">I have been to China.</span>
* 他 <em>有</em> 吃 <strong>过</strong> 小笼包。<span class="trans">He has eaten steamed dumplings.</span>
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*他 <em>有</em> 吃 <strong>过</strong> 小笼包。<span class="trans">He has eaten steamed dumplings.</span>
* 你 <em>有</em> 见 <strong>过</strong> 那 个 人 吗?<span class="trans">Have you seen that person before?</span>
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*你 <em>有</em> 见 <strong>过</strong> 那 个 人 吗?<span class="trans">Have you seen that person before?</span>
* 我 <em>有</em> 做 <strong>过</strong> 这样 的 工作。<span class="trans">I have done work like this before.</span>
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*我 <em>有</em> 做 <strong>过</strong> 这样 的 工作。<span class="trans">I have done work like this before.</span>
* 你 <em>有</em> 自己 做 <strong>过</strong> 饭 吗?<span class="trans">Have you ever cooked for yourself?</span>
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*你 <em>有</em> 自己 做 <strong>过</strong> 饭 吗?<span class="trans">Have you ever cooked for yourself?</span>
* 你 <em>有</em> 学 <strong>过</strong> 中文?<span class="trans">Have you ever studied Chinese?</span>
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*你 <em>有</em> 学 <strong>过</strong> 中文?<span class="trans">Have you ever studied Chinese?</span>
* 你 <em>有</em> 看 <strong>过</strong> 这 个 电影 吗?<span class="trans">Have you seen this movie?</span>
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*你 <em>有</em> 看 <strong>过</strong> 这 个 电影 吗?<span class="trans">Have you seen this movie?</span>
* 我 <em>有</em> 学 <strong>过</strong> 这 个 词。<span class="trans">I have studied this word.</span>
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*我 <em>有</em> 学 <strong>过</strong> 这 个 词。<span class="trans">I have studied this word.</span>
* 我 <em>有</em> 用 <strong>过</strong> 电脑,我 会 用。<span class="trans">I have used a computer before, I can use it.</span>
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*我 <em>有</em> 用 <strong>过</strong> 电脑,我 会 用。<span class="trans">I have used a computer before, I can use it.</span>
* 我 <em>有</em> 买 <strong>过</strong> 这里 的 巧克力,不 好吃。<span class="trans">I have bought the chocolate here, it's not good.</span>
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*我 <em>有</em> 买 <strong>过</strong> 这里 的 巧克力,不 好吃。<span class="trans">I have bought the chocolate here, it's not good.</span>
  
 
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* 那 时候 你 <em>有</em> <strong>在</strong> 工作 吗?<span class="trans">At that time, were you working? </span>
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*那 时候 你 <em>有</em> <strong>在</strong> 工作 吗?<span class="trans">At that time, were you working? </span>
* 这家 店 <em>有</em> <strong>在</strong> 卖 小孩子的 衣服 吗?<span class="trans">Is this store selling children’s clothes?</span>
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*这家 店 <em>有</em> <strong>在</strong> 卖 小孩子的 衣服 吗?<span class="trans">Is this store selling children’s clothes?</span>
* 我 <em>有</em> <strong>在</strong> 考虑 跟 她 分手 。<span class="trans">I am considering breaking up with her. </span>
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*我 <em>有</em> <strong>在</strong> 考虑 跟 她 分手 。<span class="trans">I am considering breaking up with her. </span>
* 我 妈妈 <em>有</em> <strong>在</strong> 吃素 。<span class="trans"> My mom is a vegetarian. </span>
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*我 妈妈 <em>有</em> <strong>在</strong> 吃素 。<span class="trans"> My mom is a vegetarian. </span>
* 你的 学生 <em>有</em> <strong>在</strong> 写 日记 吗?<span class="trans"> Do your students write diaries? </span>
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*你的 学生 <em>有</em> <strong>在</strong> 写 日记 吗?<span class="trans"> Do your students write diaries? </span>
  
 
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=== Books ===
 
=== Books ===
  
* [[A Practical Chinese Grammar For Foreigners (外国人实用汉语语法) ]] (p. 138) [http://www.amazon.cn/mn/detailApp?_encoding=UTF8&tag=allset-23&linkCode=as2&asin=B001J0ADWA&camp=536&creative=3132&creativeASIN=B001J0ADWA →buy]  
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*[[A Practical Chinese Grammar For Foreigners (外国人实用汉语语法) ]] (p. 138) [http://www.amazon.cn/mn/detailApp?_encoding=UTF8&tag=allset-23&linkCode=as2&asin=B001J0ADWA&camp=536&creative=3132&creativeASIN=B001J0ADWA →buy]  
* [[Chinese: An Essential Grammar, Second Edition]] (pp. 59-60) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0415372615/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=allset-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=0415372615 →buy]
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*[[Chinese: An Essential Grammar, Second Edition]] (pp. 59-60) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0415372615/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=allset-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=0415372615 →buy]
* [[Chinese Grammar Without Tears (简明汉语语法学习手册) ]] (pp. 73-4) [http://www.amazon.cn/mn/detailApp/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&tag=allset-23&linkCode=as2&asin=B0041UGAJU&camp=536&creative=3132&creativeASIN=B0041UGAJU →buy]
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*[[Chinese Grammar Without Tears (简明汉语语法学习手册) ]] (pp. 73-4) [http://www.amazon.cn/mn/detailApp/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&tag=allset-23&linkCode=as2&asin=B0041UGAJU&camp=536&creative=3132&creativeASIN=B0041UGAJU →buy]
* [[Integrated Chinese: Level 1, Part 2 (3rd ed)]] (pp. 83- 4) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0887276709/ref%3das_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=allset-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=0887276709 →buy]  
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*[[Integrated Chinese: Level 1, Part 2 (3rd ed)]] (pp. 83- 4) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0887276709/ref%3das_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=allset-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=0887276709 →buy]  
* [[Integrated Chinese: Level 2, Part 1]] (pp. 345-7) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0887276792/ref%3das_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=allset-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=0887276792 →buy]
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*[[Integrated Chinese: Level 2, Part 1]] (pp. 345-7) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0887276792/ref%3das_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=allset-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=0887276792 →buy]
* [[Integrated Chinese: Level 2, Part 2]] (pp. 49-51) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0887276881/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=allset-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0887276881 →buy]
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*[[Integrated Chinese: Level 2, Part 2]] (pp. 49-51) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0887276881/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=allset-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0887276881 →buy]
* [[Modern Mandarin Chinese Grammar: A Practical Guide]] (pp. 76-7, 230-2) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0415700108?ie=UTF8&tag=allset-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0415700108 →buy]  
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*[[Modern Mandarin Chinese Grammar: A Practical Guide]] (pp. 76-7, 230-2) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0415700108?ie=UTF8&tag=allset-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0415700108 →buy]  
* [[New Practical Chinese Reader 2 (新实用汉语课本2)]] (pp. 175-6) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/7561911297/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=allset-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=7561911297 →buy]
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*[[New Practical Chinese Reader 2 (新实用汉语课本2)]] (pp. 175-6) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/7561911297/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=allset-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=7561911297 →buy]
 
*[[40 Lessons for Basic Chinese Course (基础汉语40课上册)]] (p. 188)[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001FTL8D8/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B001FTL8D8&linkCode=as2&tag=allset-20 →buy]
 
*[[40 Lessons for Basic Chinese Course (基础汉语40课上册)]] (p. 188)[http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001FTL8D8/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B001FTL8D8&linkCode=as2&tag=allset-20 →buy]
  
 
=== Websites ===
 
=== Websites ===
  
* ChinesePod: [http://chinesepod.com/lessons/%E8%BF%87guo Qing Wen - 过(guo)] (free podcast content)
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*ChinesePod: [http://chinesepod.com/lessons/%E8%BF%87guo Qing Wen - 过(guo)] (free podcast content)
* [http://nccur.lib.nccu.edu.tw/bitstream/140.119/60384/1/101501.pdf]
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*[http://nccur.lib.nccu.edu.tw/bitstream/140.119/60384/1/101501.pdf]
  
 
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Taiwanese Mandarin differs slightly from Mainland Mandarin. A characteristic of Taiwanese Mandarin is the usage of 有.

Completed Verbs

In the Chinese language, there are verbs called “completed verbs.” These verbs are usually followed by a compliment, as they are not verbs that are ongoing. This is referring to the past tense.

Structure

Subj. + 有 + Verb + Obj.

Examples

  • 说 错 这 句 话 。You said this sentence wrong.
  • 老板 学 会 上海话 。The boss studied the Shanghai dialect.
  • 我们 听 懂 你的 话 。I understood what you said.
  • 看到 她 跟 你 前男友 在 一起。I saw her and your ex-boyfriend together.
  • 我们 都 听到 宝宝 哭。We all heard the baby cry.

Action Verbs

There are also verbs categorized as “action verbs.” In Taiwanese Mandarin, when 有 is put in front of these verbs, it actually indicates that the verb is still continuing.

Structure

Subj. + 有 + Verb + Obj.

Examples

  • 吃 药,可是 感冒 还是 美好 。I have taken medicine, but my cold hasn’t gotten better.
  • 告诉 我 你的 电话 号码 。He has told me your phone number.
  • 考虑 你 提的 建议。I have considered the suggestion you proposed.
  • 拿 你的 钱 吗?Has she taken your money?

Adj. that follow 有 with 到

Adjectives can also follow 有. These adjectives are all in the past tense, with a 到 following the adjective.

Structure

Subj. + 有 + Adj. + 到

Examples

  • 第一次 做 这么 多 运动,真的 The first time I exercised so much, I was so tired.
  • 他 突然 提出 跟 我 分手,我 真的 The first time I exercised so much, I was so tired.
  • 在 这里 可以 免费 吃,还 以 免费 住,The first time I exercised so much, I was so tired.
  • 结婚 前 你 在 二手 市场 买了 那么 多 家具, 吗?The first time I exercised so much, I was so tired.
  • 你们 突然 大叫着 跑出来,我 真的You guys suddenly came running out screaming loudly. I was so scared!
  • 今天 去 了 DisneyLand,真的 幸福 Today I went to Disney Land. I was really happy.
  • 这家 店 今天 全场 打一折,我 买了 好 多,Everything in this store is 90% off today. I bought a lot. It was so cheap.

Adj. not in the past tense using 有

Some adjectives can follow 有 and are not used as the past tense.

Structure

Subj. + 有 + Adj.

Examples

  • 你 跟 你 妈妈 像 耶 !You and your mom look alike!
  • 知道 你 换 工作 的 事情。He knows you that you now have a different job.
  • 很 讨厌 你 耶 !你 不 知道 吗 ?She really hates you! You didn’t know?
  • 我 最近 生病。I’ve been sick recently.
  • 我们 丢 手机 和 钱包。We lost our phone and wallet.

了 after the verb

When adding a 了after the verb, you’re stressing that the action is completed.

Structure

Subj. + 有 + Verb + 了

Examples

  • 我 刚才 上 厕所 I just now finished using the restaurant.
  • 吃 中饭 He finished eating lunch.
  • 老板 早上 喝 咖啡 The boss drank coffee this morning.
  • 发 微信 给 你 I already sent you a WeChat.
  • 我们 昨晚 吵架 We fought last night.

过 after the verb

Structure

Subj. + 有 + Verb + 过 + Obj.

Examples

  • 中国。I have been to China.
  • 小笼包。He has eaten steamed dumplings.
  • 那 个 人 吗?Have you seen that person before?
  • 这样 的 工作。I have done work like this before.
  • 自己 做 饭 吗?Have you ever cooked for yourself?
  • 中文?Have you ever studied Chinese?
  • 这 个 电影 吗?Have you seen this movie?
  • 这 个 词。I have studied this word.
  • 电脑,我 会 用。I have used a computer before, I can use it.
  • 这里 的 巧克力,不 好吃。I have bought the chocolate here, it's not good.


在 after 有

In Standard Mandarin, using 在 before a verb is the equivalent to the English –ing. When used with 有 in front of it, it is usually referring to habitual action, or an action that can be stopped. This is not in the past tense, but rather a continuing action.

Structure

Subj. + 有 + 在 + Verb

Examples

  • 那 时候 你 工作 吗?At that time, were you working?
  • 这家 店 卖 小孩子的 衣服 吗?Is this store selling children’s clothes?
  • 考虑 跟 她 分手 。I am considering breaking up with her.
  • 我 妈妈 吃素 。 My mom is a vegetarian.
  • 你的 学生 写 日记 吗? Do your students write diaries?

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